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Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition: English Sea Rovers in the Seventeenth-Century Caribbean, Second Edition

Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition: English Sea Rovers in the Seventeenth-Century Caribbean, Second EditionAuthor: Barry R. Burg
Publisher: NYU Press
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Pages: 215
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Dimensions (in): 8.9 x 5.9 x 0.7

ISBN: 0814712363
Dewey Decimal Number: 305.38966409729
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Publication Date: March 1, 1995
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Pirates are among the most heavily romanticized and fabled characters in history. From Bluebeard to Captain Hook, they have been the subject of countless movies, books, children's tales, even a world-famous amusement park ride.

In Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition, historian B. R. Burg investigates the social and sexual world of these sea rovers, a tightly bound brotherhood of men engaged in almost constant warfare. What, he asks, did these men, often on the high seas for years at a time, do for sexual fulfillment? Buccaneer sexuality differed widely from that of other all- male institutions such as prisons, for it existed not within a regimented structure of rule, regulations, and oppressive supervision, but instead operated in a society in which widespread toleration of homosexuality was the norm and conditions encouraged its practice.

In his new introduction, Burg discusses the initial response to the book when it was published in 1983 and how our perspectives on all-male societies have since changed.




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4 out of 5 stars good   October 11, 2007
Senna777 (california)
2 out of 3 found this review helpful

The person stating there are no sources is quite wrong. There are several sources that support much of the activity Burg writes about. The sexual part of the book in my opinion was not particularly exciting. However, the major point, and one of the main reasons this work was assinged in a class I took was to notice the issues poorer people in England had to endure. If they lacked funds sufficient for marriage they simply became too much of a burden for their parents to handle. Therefore, many were forced to move. Unfortunately, these men and sometimes women were "stargglers" who ended up in port cities.Once in port cities many were pressed into service for the royal navy or merchant shipping. Several other books touch on the issues of England's poor. Wallington's world Briefly touches on what happens to male children unable to secure sufficient funds. Although some of the book is down right disgusting, it has an important point--many who were thrust into piracy did so out of neccessity or for the desire to remain in some sort of brotherhood.


5 out of 5 stars Excellent   October 16, 2006
Phaeton
2 out of 12 found this review helpful

This is a terrifically readable book which should fascinate anyone even remotely interested in its subject. Burg is a fluid writer who easily transmits his own interest and entusiasm to the reader.

A good companion book would be W. Jeffrey Bolster's Black Jacks which expands one's view of the pirate world. A previous reviewer of Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition writes : "When Tampa entertained the notion of the Wydow (sp?) Pirate Ship Museum (which died a politically correct death when local NAACP ranted against it as Wydow had been a slave ship - but NAACP neglected to note many pirates were black and former slaves, some even masters of their own ships. A very good book is out there on that)".

While the reviewer is correct about there having been black pirates and captains her statement about the closing of the museum in question is irrelevant and misleading. The existence of black pirates does not lessen the horror tragedy and moral wrongness of slavery. One does not expect the fact of intra-ethnic transgressions to ameliorate the wrongness of them when discussing ethnic groups-why should one expect it to do so when it concerns black people? The "ethnic cleansing" practiced by the Mao was committed by Chinese against Chinese. Does that make it less of a sin? The "Highland Clearance" was committed by Scots and British people against Scots and British people. Is it any more forgivable for being so? Was Robespierre's slaugher of his fellow Frenchmen, mostly of the same color and ethnic background, less of a horror for the fact of their shared heritage? Would one expect the descendants of those slaughtered Frenchmen to celebrate that slaughter or to honor its instruments simply because of ethnic connection to the perpetrators?

The sin of American slavery is little more than 150 years in the past. SOme of the people reading this article have slave ancestors as close as grandparents or great-grand parents. When I was a child I knew a woman who had been born into slavery. Why should it be a mystery to anyone, no matter what their ethnicity, that a monument to an instrument of slavery is found to be objectionable? It is not a case of "political correctness" at all.

Both Burg and Bolster take a much more cosmopolitain and comprehensive approach and do not allow politics to interfere in the creation of two excellent books. They can be enjoyed by anyone with a curious mind no matter what their political views are.



1 out of 5 stars Bullwaste and the Pirate Tradition   July 17, 2006
sad pirate (Ohio)
6 out of 27 found this review helpful

Aarrrrgh!

As a member of the gay minority in a rather ultra-conservative, down-home town in northeastern Ohio, it was at first quite a pick-me-up and a treat to read that 350 years ago, there may have been, and according to Dr. Burg, most likely was, a predominantly homosexual community of buccaneers who lived the way they chose without threat of jailing, bashing, or outright hate from their nearest and dearest, so-called.

Then, all you see and hear are the detractors - there is scant evidence that any homosexual pirates existed, they turned to their parrots instead, because parrots were basically monogomous and had long life spans, etc.

My own view is, it was probably a half and half deal - there was a large community on some remote island or other of buccaneers who preferred homosexuality, and there were communities who didn't.

Dr. Burg should have been far more painstaking in his research, more realistic, perhaps.

It seems that, as in Burg's vision of predominantly gay buccaneer and later pirate communities, the man took a runaway license to exaggerate.

It is sometimes lonely enough being part of an oppressed minority without the bursting bubble that this buccaneer community all those years ago was based on sloppy research and probable outright lies.

Why disillusion an already disillusioned minority, Barry R.?

Take a tip from Bob Evans - keep the bullwaste down on the farm.



2 out of 5 stars Dry and speculative   August 2, 2002
J. P. Anderson (Houston, TX USA)
23 out of 32 found this review helpful

While there are certainly some interesting tidbits here and there, WAY too much of the book is of the form "since no records survive to show X is false, and those records that do exist are compromised in the following ways ..., we may assume that X is true."

Chapter One is a 40-page example of this; it can safely be skipped, as it is summarized in the first few words of Chapter Two: "Seventeenth-century Englishmen on all status levels were remarkably indulgent with homosexuality."

Those with only a casual interest in the subject should skim Chapters Two and Three and read the last two chapters, Buccaneer Sexuality and The Buccaneer Community. These chapters hold most of what you're probably reading the book for. Here are the bits about pirates and sex. Unfortunately, they are usually only a sentence or two long. Burg uses the little stories to construct an argument, not a narrative.

This last comment is not a criticism; he's clearly not setting out to tell a tale of high-seas adventure. (If you want this, go back to Melville.) A criticism: Burg often seems to overreach in the conclusions he draws from his sources (or lack of sources).

What looks to be a more satisfying read is "Gay Warriors," edited by the same author. This is an anthology of original sources from Homer to the present day, on the topic of "gays in the military."


2 out of 5 stars Dry and speculative   August 2, 2002
J. P. Anderson (Houston, TX USA)
23 out of 29 found this review helpful

While there are certainly some interesting tidbits here and there, WAY too much of the book is of the form "since no records survive to show X is false, and those records that do exist are compromised in the following ways ..., we may assume that X is true."

Chapter One is a 40-page example of this; it can safely be skipped, as it is summarized in the first few words of Chapter Two: "Seventeenth-century Englishmen on all status levels were remarkably indulgent with homosexuality."

Those with only a casual interest in the subject should skim Chapters Two and Three and read the last two chapters, Buccaneer Sexuality and The Buccaneer Community. These chapters hold most of what you're probably reading the book for. Here are the bits about pirates and sex. Unfortunately, they are usually only a sentence or two long. Burg uses the little stories to construct an argument, not a narrative.

This last comment is not a criticism; he's clearly not setting out to tell a tale of high-seas adventure. (If you want this, go back to Melville.) A criticism: Burg often seems to overreach in the conclusions he draws from his sources (or lack of sources).

What looks to be a more satisfying read is "Gay Warriors," edited by the same author. This is an anthology of original sources from Homer to the present day, on the topic of "gays in the military."

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